Question: What you say – there is only one handful of serious people who come to Tiru.
Karl Renz: Yeah.
Question: What is this serious?
Karl Renz: Serious, it’s like 63 Shiva lovers who now the siddhas around Arunachala. They were serious. Because only Shiva counted. Only attention to Shiva and not to party. Not to whatever. Not a bhajans singing, or anything. No distraction. They were just one-pointed, only – Shiva. And then they become the 63, being like a cloud around Arunachala.
And that is very rare. Nisargadatta said, there is any given time maybe a handful in the whole world who are as one-pointed as that for themself. It’s rarest of the rarest.
Millions goes to church. Millions pray for God. Millions whatever. And praying for some – the sun would go to the universe, some money for new car and something. They are millions. They are very religious, but praying for business. But this one-pointed and this totally termination of suiciding. Suiciding what you are. Only one side. Only the sui-cide. Total suicide for what you are. It’s the rarest of the rare.
Before, there are many awakening satsangs and thing… It’s all like…whatever.
But they say – it needs this termination. You have to be terminated, and only one this counts. Nothing else counts. Day and night. 24/7. And not like 1 hour satsang. Or maybe 2 hours bhajans singing. Or going to Ramana temple, or anything. Or giving attention 10 minutes or 5 hours, and counting the minutes. It has to be 24/7 365. And nothing else counts. Day and night. Are you ready for that? That it happens. But it happens when it happens.
And mostly it’s about pain. Only pain makes you that or the suffering. It becomes so unbearable. That the only way out is That. To be What you are. It’s like one which is hurting permanently, 24/7. This longing inside which is unbearable. That already by grace is there. And not by wanting it.
Normally you want to cover it. You want to heal yourself. And all these healing and thing actually contra productive. You have to leave it open. You have to make it more intense. If you go for it. And not healing your heart, and healing your childhood, and family constipation. And all of that. It’s just contra productive.
Just go for this one. For this longing. For this depression. This pressure. Under pressure. Totally under pressure. So. What to do.