No creation, no destruction

Karl Renz: It’s dumb to wake up. It’s very dumb. Stupid. But it’s an accident. It’s not by intention. So you are stupid not by intention. You are just stupid to wake up. And if the I aware, awakeness, then comes I – I am, dumber. Dumb, dumber.  And then having the body is the dumbest. So identified with awareness is dumb. Identified with spirit is dumber. And identifying yourself with a body is the dumbest. So it starts dumb, gets dumber, and the dumbest is now – being a person. So what to do.

So God must be very dumb, dumber and dumbest. Because now God sitting there, identified with being Spanish and a body. It’s double dummy dumb. Having a nationality. God with a nationality. That’s the dumbest ever. Being German, imagine. Wow. But we can take it. We really try to be Germans, not too mind. I think we all get old enough, that we get used to it. When we get really used to it, we die. Then it’s done.

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What I am saying is very simple

Nisargadatta Maharaj: Who you are? If you don’t know it, then get lost. What I am saying is very simple. Since death is inevitable, why not do as the sages say and see if it works? Why not listen to them and see if they are right? Before death comes it is necessary to follow a sage or a guru. If this body and this sense of I am are going to vanish, why not use them while you have them? It’s all going to vanish. Your waking, sleep and knowledge are going to vanish. You know it! Why not find out who you really are while you have them?

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Life living

Question: There is also no karma.

Karl Renz: There is karma but not yours. It’s a cosmic karma. It’s like the karma of consciousness. This moment and the next moment is the karma of consciousness. The action and the reaction in nature are not two. Consciousness is reacting to itself as a karmic consciousness. Infinitely incarnating, incarnating, incarnating in the next moment.

And the last moment disappears in the potential, and the next moment gets created out of the same whatever – call it consciousness, call it Life. So the karmic Life. Life has the absolute karma. It cannot get out of it. It has to realize itself. Life has to live itself. Life living – that is karma of Life. It cannot stop it. But there is no personal karma. Never was. So there is karma but it’s not yours. So why do you care?

What is there to let go?

Question: So no one can choose?

Karl Renz: There was never any chooser. There is no guilt in anything. You cannot blame anyone for anything. Because no one ever did anything. No Hitler, no anyone, no Charles Manson, no you.

Question: So dying doesn’t change anything?

Karl Renz: No. Yeah, there will be a change of bodies.

Question: Dying before that…

Karl Renz: No, it’s all esoteric, it’s all the imaginary advantage. That you already experiencing dying. And then when dying really happens, that you can let go. But what do let go? What is there to let go?

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The light which is eternal can never be extinguished

Anandamayi Ma: The delight in the things of this world, in sense objects is fleeting indeed. It does not last. It is impermanent. But where God and God alone stands revealed, there is no such thing as impermanence. Your attention is directed towards the world, not towards the eternal. You are identified with that which is transient in constant flux. What is revealed thereby? The perishable. In the perishable there is no self-revelation. How can Reality, true being be in that?

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You believe that you are born

Karl Renz: This presence has to stay in presence. And that what is absence has to be absence. But what you are is neither presence or absence. Isn’t it fantastic? You are in the presence and you are in the absence. You are absolutely independent of whatever you can imagine. But still you have to experience the presence, you cannot stop it. Uncontrollable. So what to do?

Question: Why this body can commit the suicide?

Karl Renz: No, I think for me the only suicide is the moment you identified with the body, then you committed suicide. You kill your infinite self by believing in your temporary limited body. That is self-suicide. People who kill the body – that’s not suicide. That is just getting rid of something. But the real suicide is that you believe that you are born. That is suicide. Believing that you are something what is born. That is suicide. By that you kill yourself. If that is your reality – to be born, having a body, having a life which has beginning and end. That’s the real suicide. By that you kill yourself. And any moment that is your reality, you are dead. You die into some cemetery of a tombstone who is already dead. So whatever life who believes to be born is dead.

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It’s unbearable not to be Shiva

Karl Renz: Awakened ones and non-awakened ones, where do they exist? Only in a dream of phantoms, in this shadow world of dream. There are awakened shadows and non-awakened shadows. And awakened ones need non-awakened ones, because otherwise they would not be special. So it’s like an agreement. You play the non-awakened one and I play the awakened one, and then we have a party, because without parts… I play my part, you play your part, so just for fun.

Just for fun I am unenlightened today. So you pretend not to know yourself, not to know what you are just for fun. But after a while the fun becomes serious, then you are in trouble. It’s like Shiva plays with the puppets just for fun, with this so called creation. He plays with this creation, but after a while he forgets that he was not even the creator. Then he forgets himself, to be That what is never part of creation or creator or anything.

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Not one dot

Karl Renz: Could the chair decide if I sit today on it or not? How can object in time decide anything? Did that answer answer your question? It’s exactly what Krishna told Arjuna, what I just said. Krishna told Arjuna that even he – the architect of all the universes, all what can be created, he cannot change his own creation.

Because the war already happened from the beginning. You cannot avoid what is already created, what is already done. He had to go and fight, because it already happened. You cannot avoid anything of your so called destiny or fate, because everything what can happen already happened. The movie is shot. It’s already finished. You cannot change anything. That is Krishna telling Arjuna that even he – the almighty, the almighty creator, the architect of everything, cannot change his own creation. Not one dot, he cannot change one little action. So Arjuna had to go and kill, because they are all dead anyway already.

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Сasual conversation with God

ABOUT ANANDAMAYI MA, from memories of Swami Mangalananda

Once, I witnessed an event that might seem insignificant but had a wonderful charm to it. In the dead of night, we were waiting on a railroad platform in a small town in Uttar Pradesh. There was just a small group of us with Ma, and someone brought a chair out and placed it on the platform for Ma to sit on. I saw that sitting right next to the chair was a little village woman, squatting on her luggage. Ma leaned towards her and started a friendly conversation.

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The Self is methodless

Ranjit Maharaj: Everybody has got different meditation idea. Same way, teachers also got different ways to teach. So the only one thing can be told – if you understand that “my mind”, “my ego”, “my body”, every other things are all illusion. But main thing is my body that is also completely illusion. If you understand, then it can be called a method, otherwise not. There is no method for understanding the Reality. Why no method? Because the Self is methodless.

Here the only method is thinking, nothing else. By thinking wrong thoughts, ignorance has come. Otherwise, Reality is so open, there is nothing to do for attaining that. There method cannot stay. Method doesn’t stay. There is no method.

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