Karl Renz: Coming back to the monasteries yesterday. I like them all. I love them. Thanks God, nothing is in it. There is nothing to expect from them. They are just like empty cathedrals of christianity or anything. And whatever. And thanks God never ever there was anyone who needed them. Just a play of That. They are not more special then sitting here in this whatever, or somewhere else in a cave, or whatever. And for that I love them. As no one needs them.

Question: So why you make a talk instead of sitting here.

Karl Renz: For that. For that. That you may see they are as they are. But thanks God, there is nothing to offer. Enjoy them. Enjoy them as the next sip of coffee. Enjoy them as the next breathing in and out. Enjoy That what you are. And that is not something special. For that you see it. And then you see it’s not special. And then the next sip of coffee is the same quality of experiencing of what you are. Moment by moment, without any interruption. But any idea that you have to gain something in a special circumstance, make yourself a special seeking bustard who thinks in a special circumstance he can become and getting more what he is. It’s called an artist.

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Question: But there must be a pleasure that celibacy must bring…

Karl Renz: No, it’s like, you cannot compare the pleasure of the absence of one who has pleasure or pain. You cannot imagine the enjoyment of silence which is the absence of one who knows pain or pleasure. So that is why they call it ananda or happiness itself which is the absolute absence of one who knows pleasure or pain. Or defines it.

So the absence of one, this definer who defines pleasure or pain is called the absolute absence of the presence of one who knows or doesn’t know what is pain or pleasure or even existence. And this absolute absence is like silence. And that silence is pleasure itself which doesn’t know pleasure. It doesn’t know itself but it is pleasure, it is joy, it is sex. Whatever you call it. But it doesn’t have to have something to be what it is.

So it’s a pleasure of absolute independency of any imaginary sensational experience of sex, of pleasure, of pain, of peace, of freedom, of all what you can imagine.

Karl Renz: It seems like, that is like not a taste of it, but just – then you know what is deep-deep sleep in that instant. Because this is not different. Because that what-you-cannot-not-be is in deep-deep sleep as now. Uninterrupted. There is no coming and going in it. You were, you are and you will be That, which is with and without. And then for one little instant you are totally without. You are that what is omnipresence which is no present.

It’s an omnipresence what doesn’t need to be present to be the omnipresence. But actually I would call it omni-pre-sense. It’s not a presence, is a pre-sense. It’s not an innocence, is in-no-sense.

Question: But in deep-deep sleep there is no awareness.

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Karl Renz: Just to point it out. You compare. You compare happy and unhappy ones. Or not?

Question: I don’t know if it’s comparison.

Karl Renz: Of course. You can only find happy one because you know unhappy ones.

Question: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely.

Karl Renz: So it can only be a relative happiness, you can experience there. So thanks God, there is no that happiness which is unconditioned. Or absolute happiness in any person, in any so called beings on earth. There will never be any happiness of That what are you looking for. Thanks God. There is only relative happiness which you can only have to compare with unhappiness. So the relative in its nature. So it’s in itself unhappy again. Thanks God. There is no one who is happy on earth.

Question: Why?

Karl Renz: Because then there would be one who is different to what Brahman is. And there would be a second Brahman. That is hell. Even the idea that there is the happy one is hell. Halleluya. Then you want to be that too. Then how to do that? Then you seek again. No. Any comparisment needs one who compares. And already that is unhappy.

Karl Renz: Nirvana is samsara. Samsara is nirvana and nirvana is samsara. There is in nature no difference. Form is non-form and non-form is form. The way is the goal. That is all. This moment is absolute as you are. And you cannot not experience yourself as this moment. So be the experiencer, experiencing, what can be experienced in nature. And there is nothing to gain in it and nothing to lose in it. So you are an Absolute in every so called fucking moment. Never less, never more as you are. So be it.

And he asks you – be as you are, be Absolute. And I tell you – be what you cannot not be. So you cannot not be Absolute. So I try very hard to hammer it into everyone but the hammer is never good enough.

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Karl Renz: Again and again, I point out that, no moment of understanding, by whatever insight, by the highest knowledge, can you get it, by whatever. Forget it.

It is like, in the Mahabharata, when Yudhisthira went with Krishna to hell. It is hell for the mind to see that there is no way out. And then there is the question from Krishna, “Сan you take it, can you be in the misery, for whatever you imagine of time, for eternity? Is there any wish of avoidance left in what you are?”

And then there was simply a total resignation of that which cares. “Whatever. Let it be, as it is.” Then suddenly, there was no hell, no Krishna, no Yudhisthira – there was nothing left. There was simply the Absolute itself, without any avoidance, as absolute blankness of ideas of what it is and what it is not. This is a direct pointer to the absolute acceptance, that which cannot be done.

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