With this mistake the whole drama starts

Question: Is there is something like grace that comes?

Karl Renz: Yes. The joke is here and now – that grace is sitting here, waiting for grace. This is an ultimate joke, all the time – that that what is grace, what is your nature, is waiting for that grace to come.

Question: It can come or not?

Karl Renz: It will never come. And grace is not in time or in no time. As grace cannot be in any circumstance. It will never come. As it never went. So it can never come. So you may see that you never lost that grace you are. You may realize that what you are is ever realized. And it never needs any more or less realization. And whatever comes on top of it, as a concept or any experience, is belonging to that body-mind organism or whatever kind of idea. And it’s as fleeting as this.

So that fleeting experiences are belonging to a fleeting experience. So you have to look for that permanent experience. You have to look for that omnipresence, which is never coming or going. Which is the essence of any circumstance. And not depending on any change. As that is the basic of Existence which is your nature. Which is silence. And cannot be interrupted by anything. Or giving from anyone.

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I see God in your face

ABOUT ANANDAMAYI MA, from memories of Melitta Mashmann

Ma is so beautiful because her body is transparent due to the divine light which is the source of all beauty. Years ago I said to her: I am such an extrovert that I cannot see God within myself, but sometimes I see Him in your face.

That night I made a note in my diary: During the evening darshan, Ma glanced at me. Suddenly her face which had looked tired became radiantly beautiful, irradiated by the inner light. For an hour she sat silent without moving on her couch. No one dared to talk. Each cell of her body vibrated in the joy of a mysterious Presence. Is it allowed to try and interpret such a situation? But perhaps when Ma glanced at me she remembered my remark that morning: Sometimes I see God in your face. And there He was, called by my loving longing to see Him.

You drink a Guru away

Karl Renz: Finally there is no Guru and no disciple anyway. But erasing it… They don’t have to go. You erase them by being what you are. But not erasing them by any technique. No Guru has to go, because in Reality there was never any Guru and no disciple relationship anyway. There is no relationship from one to the other.

In a dream there are many relationships and whatever thing. But in Reality there is no relationship to anything. You are totally alone. There is aloneness, there is no second. So if you erase that and then you can maybe… That’s too much effort, for me.

Bardo. But in a bardo you erase your Guru? I never heard about that. Maybe you go to the bar and drink a lot, and then the Guru is gone. You drink a Guru away. You get drunk and then there is no Guru and no disciple.

Nothing else, no one else

ABOUT YOGI RAMSURATKUMAR, from memories

In Sannidhi street house of Bhagawan, one young man who in some way reminded one, of young Narendra of Calcutta, was seated across from Bhagawan. Seeing Bhagawan and the boy together, transported the author to another time, another space. Strangely, the boy put the same question, perhaps in much the same way that young Narendra put to Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, “Sir, have you seen God?” All eyes were riveted on Bhagawan. The author in particular was “all ears”. The rejoinder came from a radiant Bhagawan, “My friend, is there anything else to see?”

Be that eye of God

Karl Renz: It’s being lived by Life. Or whatever call it.

Question: Yeah, but that can be intense.

Karl Renz: Can be intense.

Question: But That is indifferent to intensity too?

Karl Renz: But again, you could be in hell and the fire is burning, and thing. But what you are is unconcerned. It’s like your coolness is unaffected. So the absolute perception… whatever is perceived, the perceiver is already perceived, and whatever happens to the perceiver, makes that absolute perception not different.

So the eye of God, they call it, is indifferent to what is seeing. So be that eye of God, but don’t know who is looking. Be That what…

Question: But that’s unbearable.

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I want love of God

Ramakrishna: Bhakti is the one essential thing. Who can ever know God through reasoning? I want love of God. What do I care about knowing His infinite glories? One bottle of wine makes me drunk. What do I care about knowing how many gallons there are in the grog-shop? One jar of water is enough to quench my thirst. I don’t need to know the amount of water there is on earth.

Do your best to get them all away

Karl Renz: You just look for a good reason to be bad.

Question: That’s not about physical things. Sometimes it pops up that you immediately know if you would say to someone some thing…

Karl Renz: I say it.

Question: That would be…

Karl Renz: Yes, but I say it.

Question: …Totally the worst case for them.

Karl Renz: Why not? Just create the worst case scenario. A friend is leaving you because you say something. Or your mother doesn’t like you anymore. Then you are succeeded. Do your best to get them all away. Peace off. And the problem is look like me, I talk to all of them like bla-bla-bla, and more and more come. It doesn’t work.

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Redirection of the love

Karl Renz: Maybe you have to put your love to something what is what you are. Surrendering to that what is your nature. And not surrendering to the so called daily life of my living tra-la-la. Maybe you have to surrender to That what is not a concept. So you have to fall in love again with That what is your nature. And not falling in love with your body or some, mercedes or some good doing or something.

So redirection of the love. Because now your direction is out into the world, doing good and climate change, bla-bla-bla. Understanding something. But all of that is empty. And there is one point – it is all so empty that it cannot, you know it’s never ending story of ignorance. And you love something which is always permanently changing and you cannot keep it. It’s no way. Maybe it has to be something what is permanent and not depending on fleeting experiences.

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The only thing what counts

Karl Renz: It seems to be necessity to give attention totally in that eternal now to That what one is. And then maybe getting used to that, that this is the only thing what counts. And the rest is just by the way, whatever. Personal life or anything. But the only thing what counts is totally focusing and giving attention to That what you are. And nothing else. Putting attention to that what is attention. Permanently. This becomes your meditation, 24/7. And nothing else counts. If there is a purpose to exist, this is a purpose. The only purpose which is worth to have a purpose is That – to be what you are. Getting out of this hypnotic state of imagining to be out of it.

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You can kill everything

Karl Renz: “Wow. Crazy. I am afraid to get crazy.” Om namah shivaya.

Question: The process of releasing these believes.

Karl Renz: Believe systems? They don’t have to go. You just change your believe system. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t change anything. Just be what you are – and the believe system, and the believer and whatever. It’s anyway killed. You just can kill everything – all your idea and fear of madness – just by being what you are, which is always sober. Always, totally. Now you are insane. Your sanity is what you are. What you are is always sane. But now you are insane to believe in something. That is insanity. Come on. It’s crazy – the Almighty is afraid to get crazy.