Question: Is there is something like grace that comes?
Karl Renz: Yes. The joke is here and now – that grace is sitting here, waiting for grace. This is an ultimate joke, all the time – that that what is grace, what is your nature, is waiting for that grace to come.
Question: It can come or not?
Karl Renz: It will never come. And grace is not in time or in no time. As grace cannot be in any circumstance. It will never come. As it never went. So it can never come. So you may see that you never lost that grace you are. You may realize that what you are is ever realized. And it never needs any more or less realization. And whatever comes on top of it, as a concept or any experience, is belonging to that body-mind organism or whatever kind of idea. And it’s as fleeting as this.
So that fleeting experiences are belonging to a fleeting experience. So you have to look for that permanent experience. You have to look for that omnipresence, which is never coming or going. Which is the essence of any circumstance. And not depending on any change. As that is the basic of Existence which is your nature. Which is silence. And cannot be interrupted by anything. Or giving from anyone.