Tag: Karl Renz

Question: They say – surrender.

Karl Renz: Yeah, you have to surrender.

Question: How do you do that?

Karl Renz: How? It’s not how. Just by being what you are, you surrender any idea of what you are. Just by being what you are. It’s very easy. Every night you surrender in deep-deep sleep to yourself. And you surrender the whole body, the whole world. Without surrendering you cannot fall asleep. It’s an absolute surrendering, because you don’t know if you wake up again. You think you wake up again. Because yesterday you woke up, and the day before. But you cannot be sure that you wake up the next morning.

You never know what happens. In deep-deep sleep. Maybe whatever. You can imagine. Some cannot sleep anymore. Because they imagine maybe what can happen. Someone comes and bum and buff. Maybe I will not wake up anymore so I have to stay awake.

So surrendering is you can surrender now what you do every night. You surrender the surrenderer. Because what you believe as a surrenderer cannot do that. Because the surrenderer gets surrendered every night in the surrendering of what you are. Just dropping the presence. The presence dropped or that what you are turning to the absence. So you are master of surrendering. Everyone here surrenders every night. You are the master of the masters. And no one can teach you that. No one has to teach you that.

But you try the meditation to surrender. But you meditate as a meditator. You meditate on some advantage. Because you think there is an advantage of absence. Then you make even the absence advantage. So the me lives from advantage and disadvantage.  But what you are has no disadvantage in disadvantage and no advantage in advantage. It is in spite of presence and absence.

So there is no better. There is no good or bad or anything. All of that only applies to the me who believes in the advantage as absence.

So the absolute advantage is that to be what you are, never needs, doesn’t know any advantage or disadvantage. So not knowing what you are. And not knowing what is advantage and disadvantage comes with it. There is the peace you are looking for. What you are longing for. But only to be what you are. The rest cannot give you anything. Then you are the master of it.

But the trap is always you fall in love. Every morning again, first sight. The first question – how am I? What to do first? Staying in bed or do I have to go to toilet first. You see caretaker starts instantly.

Karl Renz: In India they say Sai Ram, Sai Ram like I am God, I am God, I am God. But it doesn’t work. You have to be. You are it anyway. So I am talking to myself. That’s why I call it Self-talks. The Absolute talks to the Absolute. And always having fun with Absolute having problems. Absolute knot, absolute heart…

Question: But having the relative problems or absolute…

Karl Renz: Doesn’t matter. Absolute relative problems are as absolute as absolute non-relative problems. I enjoy problems. Small problems, big problems. By being the problem there is no problem. If it doesn’t need to be solved. Problems are fun. If it doesn’t make you more – if there are solved or less when they are not solved. They are just fun. They are popping up like flowers and they dissolve. It’s like pfff – coming and going. Just give it some time. They will be gone by themselves. Not because you want them to go.

What’s the problem? When there are problems?

This is called the garden of Eden. Nirvana. Because every word, every event, everything is a flower of the garden of Eden. Even the shit on the street of the dog is a flower in the garden of Eden. Or every sound of punk or anything like noise and thing, it’s all the sound of Heaven. Sound garden. If you are all That and it’s all what you are, how can you be disturbed by what you are. And how can you even be disturbed by being disturbed? Because I am permanently disturbed. I am so disturbed. But who is disturbed by being disturbed? I like to be disturbed. I like to be angry like hell. I could shoot everyone every moment. But why not. And I don’t have to be a good person. Fuck it.

Question: But at least I can laugh about it.

Karl Renz: That’s why you are here – to see the joke. You are here that you see the joke and then you may start laughing about what you are.

Question: So, you can learn that.

Karl Renz: Yeah, but again you can unlearn it. That’s the problem. And then it will be serious again. Then even I ask you to laugh even more about that you get serious about yourself. Because the bastard you are is always laughing in the back. As the buddhists say, call it like the sky which is never clouded by any idea. Which is always the sky is always laughing by itself. Just being that blue. And that’s why the color of Shiva or Krishna is blue. Out of the blue everything comes. Into the blue everything goes. And even Christ went into the blue. Not into the sky, into the blue.

So, and what is before the blue? The blues. That sadness of being absolutely alone is arising. There is the blues before the blue is. The first is blues. And out of the blues you start trying to entertain yourself. Because you are in such a blues.

Question: But there is a sense that everything is going through the inside it’s like a comedy.

Karl Renz: Yeah. The divine comedy it’s called.

Question: Just there is anything is going through the intellect that isn’t comedy?

Karl Renz: No. Only the comedy is.

Question: Only comedy. So, anything what goes through the intellect, if you take as anything, that comedy, you are asking to travel.

Karl Renz: It’s cult. It’s consciousness trying to cultivate consciousness. And that’s the comedy. The absolute cosmic consciousness trying to get more as it is. What a joke. That what never needs to be cultivated tries to cultivate itself.

Karl Renz: There is an unpronounced yes. Just the silence agreed. There is a total agreement of what you are. You agree to everything. Yes. Even if I would read the telephone book. Yes, yes. It’s not what I say. For sure not.

Question: And yes, it’s in spite of what you mind.

Karl Renz: Yeah. I am just talking to keep the mind busy that some whatever is there. So I take over your mind. Because I don’t mind. And then you can be what you are. And that is always yes.

Question: That is always yes.

Karl Renz: Ok. Yes. Yes. Not even pronounced. It’s just yes. So the most silent agreement. But agreement to yourself. And that… there is peace. Because there is peace, there is yes. Because there is doubtlessness of being. And in doubtlessness there is peace and there is yes. So you agreed to your existence. And then there is peace.

Normally you don’t agree with how you are and what happens. Because you are a seeker and you want to go out of this. And then there is no agreement. And I by talking to you and taking over that doubtful tra-la-la, there is sudden agreement. Unexpected. Then you don’t know… what. And there is doubtlessness. But the problem is no one can take it with him. Because this ownership thing steps in again. And then that owner wants even to own that doubtlessness of Existence. My doubtlessness.

Karl Renz: Who defines strong and not so strong energy?

Question: Ok.

Karl Renz: That is why I say – you are still concerned about the quantity of energy.

Question: Yes, sure.

Karl Renz: And that’s the block it.

Question: But sometime… I want to kill everybody I found on the road. So horrible.

Karl Renz: That is why we are sitting here, talking about the quality of energy which has no quantity. And at the moment you talk about the quantity of more or less energy is a dream. Is imagination.

Question: So, we talk about the quality?

Karl Renz: Just you have to write the discrimination – whatever has a quantity of energy is an imaginary energy.

Question: Yes, sure.

Karl Renz: And that quality of energy is silence. There is no more or less energy. This what is called silence. But any concerning about the quantity and how it was, and making a biography of more or less energy is this personal conserver. Memorizing whatever quantity of more or less imaginary energy. That is called dream. And being That what is energy – doesn’t know energy and doesn’t have energy. And there is no quality of negative or positive or anything what you can imagine.

Question: Yes, sure.

Karl Renz: But for that you are sitting here, for that silence. And not for any more or less energy. Come on. And not knowing – why this solar plexus is jumping there or something is happening there in the right ear or in the left ear. What does it mean. When the antenna is sending or receiving. And bla-bla-bla. Bla-bla-bla. We can talk about it. But it’s all bullshit.

Karl Renz: Everything is as it should be! Otherwise, it would be different. Perfection realizes itself. Self – heart in exhalation and inhalation. Forgetting and remembering. An endless self-experience.

Question: Is there any reason that this whole theatre starts? We could have stayed what we are?

Karl Renz: No. You could not. As I said – you are that what is freedom. And freedom means freedom of choice. And freedom of choice means – you cannot make a choice to stay where you are. Even the choice to stay where you are, already the chooser wakes up. So by whatever choice, the chooser is there. Unavoidable. You cannot avoid to wake up. As you cannot avoid to realize yourself. As the realization is here and now. And the wanting to make it un, undoing it, getting out of it – it is called me. It’s a seeker who wants to avoid himself. Who is looking for a way out. Always looking for an exit.

And I am sitting here as a doorman and say – no way out. No way out for you. Because as you are That what is, you cannot leave what you are. As this is, this moment as absolute as it is – one absolute realization, out of infinite aspects of what you are. And you cannot leave That what is, your realization. As you are That what is the realization.

And to be That what is, what is the realization – as the I of the I, the I-am of the I-am, and the I-am-the-world of the I-am-the-world, always the essence as That what is heart. Simply realizing itself as I-am-the-world. But it’s still That what is heart. And there is no second heart. As there is no second edition of existence. You are that existence itself. And you cannot leave it.

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Karl Renz: And no one can claim that he is That. And no one can pull you out again, anything. Because you cannot lose it. Cannot gain it. But everything else you can lose again. And it’s fragile. So all the realizations, all enlightenment, all awakening, and all experiences are very fragile. Wherever you land, you have to depart again. It will be checked. And God will cut you down by all your experiences, by all your insight, by all your intellectual acrobatic ideas of whatever you can nicely pronounce with all the beauty and all of that. Bum. It will puhhh as nothing.

Question: This point of satisfaction.

Karl Renz: It’s not the point of satisfaction.

Question: Or that state.

Karl Renz: That’s not a state. It is not a state. It is fact. There is no one who can be in That what has no state. Everyone needs a state to be in it. But That which is not a state you cannot be in it. There is no one who can be there. Every other state you can land in. But in That no one can land. And then no one can land there, no one can depart. There is no departure possible from what you are.

Karl Renz: Giving attention to attention is being That what doesn’t have any idea about attention.

Question: Yeah, yeah. It sounds first like a paradox.

Karl Renz: It is a paradox.

Question: Because that what is attention can’t…

Karl Renz: If only when you have attention and give attention, then it’s a relative attention. But if you are the absolute attention which cannot… There is no one who has anything. Then you don’t give attention to anything. Then you are attention. Because then you are that what is attention and that what is experience. There is no difference in nature. Then you are that what is. And that what is cannot be disturbed by what is.

So, only when you are separate person and the separate bla-bla-bla entity, and then you are permanent disturbed just by existence. That you exist, you are disturbed. That you are aware to exist. Already the root of all disturbances. That all starts. The awareness I. But that what is awareness has no idea about awareness. That what is the father doesn’t know any father. That what is spirit doesn’t know any spirit. It would never give it the same name. And the absolute person doesn’t know any person.

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Question: You use the word harmony. So harmony is also something that… the word you use. Is it reality for you – harmony?

Karl Renz: Harmony is always there. I am never in any conflict with anything.

Question: For me, sometimes I am afraid because I also see very much the chaos.

Karl Renz: Yeah, but for me chaos is harmony. No, chaos is harmony. Because there is no idea of harmony. That’s chaos. And that is the nature of harmony. Harmony who has no idea of harmony. And that’s chaos. Confusion. That’s harmony. No need of structure or anything. Or pleasing music, or something. No entertaining music.

If you ask me, for me what is art, what is music. Actually, maybe the opposite of the normal understanding of it.

Question: Yeah, exactly.

Karl Renz: But maybe not. I don’t care about what is normal. So, for me it’s… There was never any artist. There was never any creator. This whole creation is totally random. There is no creator deciding anything. It’s just freedom, anarchy of Existence. And no purpose, no meaning. All of that is the free unfolding of Life itself. Life living in a total chaos and confusion of itself. And enjoying itself. And no need of any order or any technique, or anything. How can you learn to live? What a joke.