Tag: Karl Renz

Question: But at least I can laugh about it.

Karl Renz: That’s why you are here – to see the joke. You are here that you see the joke and then you may start laughing about what you are.

Question: So, you can learn that.

Karl Renz: Yeah, but again you can unlearn it. That’s the problem. And then it will be serious again. Then even I ask you to laugh even more about that you get serious about yourself. Because the bastard you are is always laughing in the back. As the buddhists say, call it like the sky which is never clouded by any idea. Which is always the sky is always laughing by itself. Just being that blue. And that’s why the color of Shiva or Krishna is blue. Out of the blue everything comes. Into the blue everything goes. And even Christ went into the blue. Not into the sky, into the blue.

So, and what is before the blue? The blues. That sadness of being absolutely alone is arising. There is the blues before the blue is. The first is blues. And out of the blues you start trying to entertain yourself. Because you are in such a blues.

Question: But there is a sense that everything is going through the inside it’s like a comedy.

Karl Renz: Yeah. The divine comedy it’s called.

Question: Just there is anything is going through the intellect that isn’t comedy?

Karl Renz: No. Only the comedy is.

Question: Only comedy. So, anything what goes through the intellect, if you take as anything, that comedy, you are asking to travel.

Karl Renz: It’s cult. It’s consciousness trying to cultivate consciousness. And that’s the comedy. The absolute cosmic consciousness trying to get more as it is. What a joke. That what never needs to be cultivated tries to cultivate itself.

Karl Renz: There is an unpronounced yes. Just the silence agreed. There is a total agreement of what you are. You agree to everything. Yes. Even if I would read the telephone book. Yes, yes. It’s not what I say. For sure not.

Question: And yes, it’s in spite of what you mind.

Karl Renz: Yeah. I am just talking to keep the mind busy that some whatever is there. So I take over your mind. Because I don’t mind. And then you can be what you are. And that is always yes.

Question: That is always yes.

Karl Renz: Ok. Yes. Yes. Not even pronounced. It’s just yes. So the most silent agreement. But agreement to yourself. And that… there is peace. Because there is peace, there is yes. Because there is doubtlessness of being. And in doubtlessness there is peace and there is yes. So you agreed to your existence. And then there is peace.

Normally you don’t agree with how you are and what happens. Because you are a seeker and you want to go out of this. And then there is no agreement. And I by talking to you and taking over that doubtful tra-la-la, there is sudden agreement. Unexpected. Then you don’t know… what. And there is doubtlessness. But the problem is no one can take it with him. Because this ownership thing steps in again. And then that owner wants even to own that doubtlessness of Existence. My doubtlessness.

Karl Renz: Who defines strong and not so strong energy?

Question: Ok.

Karl Renz: That is why I say – you are still concerned about the quantity of energy.

Question: Yes, sure.

Karl Renz: And that’s the block it.

Question: But sometime… I want to kill everybody I found on the road. So horrible.

Karl Renz: That is why we are sitting here, talking about the quality of energy which has no quantity. And at the moment you talk about the quantity of more or less energy is a dream. Is imagination.

Question: So, we talk about the quality?

Karl Renz: Just you have to write the discrimination – whatever has a quantity of energy is an imaginary energy.

Question: Yes, sure.

Karl Renz: And that quality of energy is silence. There is no more or less energy. This what is called silence. But any concerning about the quantity and how it was, and making a biography of more or less energy is this personal conserver. Memorizing whatever quantity of more or less imaginary energy. That is called dream. And being That what is energy – doesn’t know energy and doesn’t have energy. And there is no quality of negative or positive or anything what you can imagine.

Question: Yes, sure.

Karl Renz: But for that you are sitting here, for that silence. And not for any more or less energy. Come on. And not knowing – why this solar plexus is jumping there or something is happening there in the right ear or in the left ear. What does it mean. When the antenna is sending or receiving. And bla-bla-bla. Bla-bla-bla. We can talk about it. But it’s all bullshit.

Karl Renz: Everything is as it should be! Otherwise, it would be different. Perfection realizes itself. Self – heart in exhalation and inhalation. Forgetting and remembering. An endless self-experience.

Question: Is there any reason that this whole theatre starts? We could have stayed what we are?

Karl Renz: No. You could not. As I said – you are that what is freedom. And freedom means freedom of choice. And freedom of choice means – you cannot make a choice to stay where you are. Even the choice to stay where you are, already the chooser wakes up. So by whatever choice, the chooser is there. Unavoidable. You cannot avoid to wake up. As you cannot avoid to realize yourself. As the realization is here and now. And the wanting to make it un, undoing it, getting out of it – it is called me. It’s a seeker who wants to avoid himself. Who is looking for a way out. Always looking for an exit.

And I am sitting here as a doorman and say – no way out. No way out for you. Because as you are That what is, you cannot leave what you are. As this is, this moment as absolute as it is – one absolute realization, out of infinite aspects of what you are. And you cannot leave That what is, your realization. As you are That what is the realization.

And to be That what is, what is the realization – as the I of the I, the I-am of the I-am, and the I-am-the-world of the I-am-the-world, always the essence as That what is heart. Simply realizing itself as I-am-the-world. But it’s still That what is heart. And there is no second heart. As there is no second edition of existence. You are that existence itself. And you cannot leave it.

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Karl Renz: And no one can claim that he is That. And no one can pull you out again, anything. Because you cannot lose it. Cannot gain it. But everything else you can lose again. And it’s fragile. So all the realizations, all enlightenment, all awakening, and all experiences are very fragile. Wherever you land, you have to depart again. It will be checked. And God will cut you down by all your experiences, by all your insight, by all your intellectual acrobatic ideas of whatever you can nicely pronounce with all the beauty and all of that. Bum. It will puhhh as nothing.

Question: This point of satisfaction.

Karl Renz: It’s not the point of satisfaction.

Question: Or that state.

Karl Renz: That’s not a state. It is not a state. It is fact. There is no one who can be in That what has no state. Everyone needs a state to be in it. But That which is not a state you cannot be in it. There is no one who can be there. Every other state you can land in. But in That no one can land. And then no one can land there, no one can depart. There is no departure possible from what you are.

Karl Renz: Giving attention to attention is being That what doesn’t have any idea about attention.

Question: Yeah, yeah. It sounds first like a paradox.

Karl Renz: It is a paradox.

Question: Because that what is attention can’t…

Karl Renz: If only when you have attention and give attention, then it’s a relative attention. But if you are the absolute attention which cannot… There is no one who has anything. Then you don’t give attention to anything. Then you are attention. Because then you are that what is attention and that what is experience. There is no difference in nature. Then you are that what is. And that what is cannot be disturbed by what is.

So, only when you are separate person and the separate bla-bla-bla entity, and then you are permanent disturbed just by existence. That you exist, you are disturbed. That you are aware to exist. Already the root of all disturbances. That all starts. The awareness I. But that what is awareness has no idea about awareness. That what is the father doesn’t know any father. That what is spirit doesn’t know any spirit. It would never give it the same name. And the absolute person doesn’t know any person.

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Question: You use the word harmony. So harmony is also something that… the word you use. Is it reality for you – harmony?

Karl Renz: Harmony is always there. I am never in any conflict with anything.

Question: For me, sometimes I am afraid because I also see very much the chaos.

Karl Renz: Yeah, but for me chaos is harmony. No, chaos is harmony. Because there is no idea of harmony. That’s chaos. And that is the nature of harmony. Harmony who has no idea of harmony. And that’s chaos. Confusion. That’s harmony. No need of structure or anything. Or pleasing music, or something. No entertaining music.

If you ask me, for me what is art, what is music. Actually, maybe the opposite of the normal understanding of it.

Question: Yeah, exactly.

Karl Renz: But maybe not. I don’t care about what is normal. So, for me it’s… There was never any artist. There was never any creator. This whole creation is totally random. There is no creator deciding anything. It’s just freedom, anarchy of Existence. And no purpose, no meaning. All of that is the free unfolding of Life itself. Life living in a total chaos and confusion of itself. And enjoying itself. And no need of any order or any technique, or anything. How can you learn to live? What a joke.

Karl Renz: I think by intuition you know that you are not something what you can know. By absolute intuition. Because whatever you can know, you drop again. And then you try something else and you drop it again. You pick it up – your understanding or some experience but after a while it doesn’t satisfy you, gone. Next one. So, you always try the next one. And none of them is… Maybe it’s like little temporary satisfaction. But this temporary satisfaction doesn’t satisfy you.

So, all of that is empty. After a while you may turn away from all that, fleeting thing. And then turning away from it, turning to that what is always available. But you never count it. What was always there. So your attention always went astray.

But you cannot… It happens when it happens. Not because you want it to happen. So it has to burn out before. It has to be really empty, empty, empty, empty, empty. Until… Then the longing is so strong that it automatically comes back. And then this experience of that what doesn’t need to experience itself – this sweetness of what it is, that what is sweetness – is uncomparable to any other experience. And then you are totally hooked to yourself. And then by nature you just stay there. Because you are not tempted anymore by all of that fleeting things. But only that can keep you there.

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Karl Renz: There is only Self. If there is at all. And the Self doesn’t know any self. So what is there to… And that is silence. There is no…

Question: Yeah, so ok. If it’s silence, anything that be or arises, arises on this silence.

Karl Renz: It is silence. Not on the silence.

Question: All the phenomenals.

Karl Renz: All is noumenal Life. There is no phenomenal life.

Question: Noumenal Life.

Karl Renz: It’s all noumenal Life. The noumenal is the only what is Reality. There is only noumenal Life.

Sorry, I am not… The phenomenal is just… The nature of the phenomenal is not different from the noumenal. So even the phenomenal is noumenal. There is only noumenal Life. Life as what is Life which is noumenal. Final.

So there is no difference in nature of the phenomenal and the noumenal. So there is no second. So the father, the spirit and the son in nature are Heart. So there is only Heart, the noumenal. Realizing itself as phenomenal. But it doesn’t become phenomenal, realizing itself as phenomenal. It’s uninterrupted noumenal.

So what is there to do. Higher teaching… What is a higher teaching in it? You cannot not be quiet. So, anything else from high-high? High and low.