You are still the nakedness itself

Karl Renz: Again and again, I point out that, no moment of understanding, by whatever insight, by the highest knowledge, can you get it, by whatever. Forget it.

It is like, in the Mahabharata, when Yudhisthira went with Krishna to hell. It is hell for the mind to see that there is no way out. And then there is the question from Krishna, “Сan you take it, can you be in the misery, for whatever you imagine of time, for eternity? Is there any wish of avoidance left in what you are?”

And then there was simply a total resignation of that which cares. “Whatever. Let it be, as it is.” Then suddenly, there was no hell, no Krishna, no Yudhisthira – there was nothing left. There was simply the Absolute itself, without any avoidance, as absolute blankness of ideas of what it is and what it is not. This is a direct pointer to the absolute acceptance, that which cannot be done.

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I still have full hope for myself

Karl Renz: I am here to talk you to death. And I can say whatever I like. At the moment I talk to That what is what you are, what you are not – dies. And what you are in nature remains. So just by talking to That what you are. That is yama actually – that is killing whatever can be killed, and That what is Life remains what it is.

And maybe you get more and more… Whatever. Sooner or later you have to abide in it by being it. Uninterrupted. And maybe you never know, it happens. I still have full hope for myself. Not really. But.

I can make a business out of it. Giving hope again – “When you are around me, you can easier abide into your true nature and then you… But you have to stick around.”

That would be hell for me. And I do everything to avoid that. I have no Buddha field. So what to do.

Sweet surrender

Karl Renz: Trust Existence. Existence never makes any mistake. It’s all absolute arranged. Don’t worry, be happy. And enjoy the show. All your despair and all your frustration had to happen to prepare yourself. That you now can sit here and be quiet maybe or not. Who knows. So it’s all by grace, they call it. Grace prepared you to confront yourself with yourself.

So all is fine. No mistake at all. It was as it was, and it is as it is. And it cannot be otherwise. So there is a wisdom of not knowing what is needed, and preparing you for that what you never will know. So there are many drug addicts in front of me sometime, junkies, heroin or something. Exactly that you have to go through – all the drugs, and all the things, all the experiences. And all the helplessness – that you cannot decide taking it or not. That it’s your hand goes to the needle and you get it, if you like it or not.

This is actually the preparation for helplessness. That you cannot help it. That you have no control. Anything. Or you have a relationship is a very good teacher. That you have to be with someone until it ends. And you cannot stop it before it ends, as much as you try.

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With this mistake the whole drama starts

Question: Is there is something like grace that comes?

Karl Renz: Yes. The joke is here and now – that grace is sitting here, waiting for grace. This is an ultimate joke, all the time – that that what is grace, what is your nature, is waiting for that grace to come.

Question: It can come or not?

Karl Renz: It will never come. And grace is not in time or in no time. As grace cannot be in any circumstance. It will never come. As it never went. So it can never come. So you may see that you never lost that grace you are. You may realize that what you are is ever realized. And it never needs any more or less realization. And whatever comes on top of it, as a concept or any experience, is belonging to that body-mind organism or whatever kind of idea. And it’s as fleeting as this.

So that fleeting experiences are belonging to a fleeting experience. So you have to look for that permanent experience. You have to look for that omnipresence, which is never coming or going. Which is the essence of any circumstance. And not depending on any change. As that is the basic of Existence which is your nature. Which is silence. And cannot be interrupted by anything. Or giving from anyone.

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You drink a Guru away

Karl Renz: Finally there is no Guru and no disciple anyway. But erasing it… They don’t have to go. You erase them by being what you are. But not erasing them by any technique. No Guru has to go, because in Reality there was never any Guru and no disciple relationship anyway. There is no relationship from one to the other.

In a dream there are many relationships and whatever thing. But in Reality there is no relationship to anything. You are totally alone. There is aloneness, there is no second. So if you erase that and then you can maybe… That’s too much effort, for me.

Bardo. But in a bardo you erase your Guru? I never heard about that. Maybe you go to the bar and drink a lot, and then the Guru is gone. You drink a Guru away. You get drunk and then there is no Guru and no disciple.

Be that eye of God

Karl Renz: It’s being lived by Life. Or whatever call it.

Question: Yeah, but that can be intense.

Karl Renz: Can be intense.

Question: But That is indifferent to intensity too?

Karl Renz: But again, you could be in hell and the fire is burning, and thing. But what you are is unconcerned. It’s like your coolness is unaffected. So the absolute perception… whatever is perceived, the perceiver is already perceived, and whatever happens to the perceiver, makes that absolute perception not different.

So the eye of God, they call it, is indifferent to what is seeing. So be that eye of God, but don’t know who is looking. Be That what…

Question: But that’s unbearable.

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Do your best to get them all away

Karl Renz: You just look for a good reason to be bad.

Question: That’s not about physical things. Sometimes it pops up that you immediately know if you would say to someone some thing…

Karl Renz: I say it.

Question: That would be…

Karl Renz: Yes, but I say it.

Question: …Totally the worst case for them.

Karl Renz: Why not? Just create the worst case scenario. A friend is leaving you because you say something. Or your mother doesn’t like you anymore. Then you are succeeded. Do your best to get them all away. Peace off. And the problem is look like me, I talk to all of them like bla-bla-bla, and more and more come. It doesn’t work.

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Redirection of the love

Karl Renz: Maybe you have to put your love to something what is what you are. Surrendering to that what is your nature. And not surrendering to the so called daily life of my living tra-la-la. Maybe you have to surrender to That what is not a concept. So you have to fall in love again with That what is your nature. And not falling in love with your body or some, mercedes or some good doing or something.

So redirection of the love. Because now your direction is out into the world, doing good and climate change, bla-bla-bla. Understanding something. But all of that is empty. And there is one point – it is all so empty that it cannot, you know it’s never ending story of ignorance. And you love something which is always permanently changing and you cannot keep it. It’s no way. Maybe it has to be something what is permanent and not depending on fleeting experiences.

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The only thing what counts

Karl Renz: It seems to be necessity to give attention totally in that eternal now to That what one is. And then maybe getting used to that, that this is the only thing what counts. And the rest is just by the way, whatever. Personal life or anything. But the only thing what counts is totally focusing and giving attention to That what you are. And nothing else. Putting attention to that what is attention. Permanently. This becomes your meditation, 24/7. And nothing else counts. If there is a purpose to exist, this is a purpose. The only purpose which is worth to have a purpose is That – to be what you are. Getting out of this hypnotic state of imagining to be out of it.

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You can kill everything

Karl Renz: “Wow. Crazy. I am afraid to get crazy.” Om namah shivaya.

Question: The process of releasing these believes.

Karl Renz: Believe systems? They don’t have to go. You just change your believe system. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t change anything. Just be what you are – and the believe system, and the believer and whatever. It’s anyway killed. You just can kill everything – all your idea and fear of madness – just by being what you are, which is always sober. Always, totally. Now you are insane. Your sanity is what you are. What you are is always sane. But now you are insane to believe in something. That is insanity. Come on. It’s crazy – the Almighty is afraid to get crazy.