Karl Renz: It seems to be necessity to give attention totally in that eternal now to That what one is. And then maybe getting used to that, that this is the only thing what counts. And the rest is just by the way, whatever. Personal life or anything. But the only thing what counts is totally focusing and giving attention to That what you are. And nothing else. Putting attention to that what is attention. Permanently. This becomes your meditation, 24/7. And nothing else counts. If there is a purpose to exist, this is a purpose. The only purpose which is worth to have a purpose is That – to be what you are. Getting out of this hypnotic state of imagining to be out of it.
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You can kill everything
Karl Renz: “Wow. Crazy. I am afraid to get crazy.” Om namah shivaya.
Question: The process of releasing these believes.
Karl Renz: Believe systems? They don’t have to go. You just change your believe system. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t change anything. Just be what you are – and the believe system, and the believer and whatever. It’s anyway killed. You just can kill everything – all your idea and fear of madness – just by being what you are, which is always sober. Always, totally. Now you are insane. Your sanity is what you are. What you are is always sane. But now you are insane to believe in something. That is insanity. Come on. It’s crazy – the Almighty is afraid to get crazy.
This aloneness of absolute quietness
Question: What about own efforts? Seeker. I made it, as a seeker. So many efforts that all were in vain.
Karl Renz: Thanks God. And you are here that you maybe – oh, thanks God, I didn’t make it. Thanks God, they were all in vain and futile. Enjoy the futility of Life. Doesn’t need any results. So futile. Thanks God, just in case there is one. Just in case. The futility of your action – that’s the joy of acting. The joy of action is there is futility, there is nothing coming out. That you don’t expect, this absence of expectation or regrets. Wow. We are talking about the carelessness of what you have done or not done. What happens by your inner fire for truth and all this beautiful tra-la-la. Until there is absolutely – fuck it all. Fire or no fire, cooling down or not cooling down – who fucking needs that.
No, this absolute tabula rasa. And that is like become a baby, tabula rasa. There is no concept left – what needs to be done or not done. Because there is no one left who could have one. So the whole ownership erased. No tabu anymore.
You were, you are, and you will be That
Question: Ramana mentioned I-I.
Karl Renz: Yes, that’s the Zero-Zero. No he was not there, because in I-I no one can be. The I of the I there is neither one nor no one. It’s like the essence of the essence. Because the essence of the essence doesn’t know any essence. By not knowing what he was and what he is, he is that what is That, knowledge, call it anything. But it itself could not call it anything. Ramana never claim to know himself. He was never claiming anything. He just point it out – is like a street sign, the direction. But he never told you what one is. Because no one ever will know what one is.
Whatever comes next
Karl Renz: So I am talking to the master. And not to anyone needs something. And for me, you are complete as you are. You cannot get more or less as you are. And not any relative knowledge or any insight, anything can ever add anything to what you are. But nothing can be taken away from you too. That comes together. So you cannot get less. And as you are the Absolute complete, this is what you are. You cannot escape yourself. You will always realize yourself in the next moment. In the Presence.
So even the Presence you cannot escape, as the Absence. It’s like two faces of what you are. The Presence face and the Absence face. But what you are has no face. And no concept of all. So how can I know that? So I turned it around – how can I not know that? How can I not be? Maybe you tried all, what you can do, not to be. But you failed. As you are even in not-being you are. Imagine.
The happiness you are is not depending on how this movie is played
Karl Renz: It’s a total demand of Totality. And you cannot resist.
Question: That’s nice.
Karl Renz: Yeah. That’s the way it is. It’s peace. It’s always the total demand of Totality, that the next moment has to be as the next moment already is. And whatever gives you the energy which can lift your eyelid – it’s the same energy who is make the world turn. So there is no separation in it. It’s just Totality living itself in all these differences. And there is no one who is drawn to something. It’s just moment by moment Life living itself in that way.
And that’s there is actually, maybe if you are honest, no place of judgement, judging it. Just as it is. Or already is. And because of that, this has to be whatever. The movie is shot and nothing has to be and can be changed in it. So just you can relax totally, absolute relax and just be witness of your own movie which is already finished.
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It’s called alco-holy
Karl Renz: Ok. So where was I? Alcohol. Because with alcohol you got alcoholistic. It’s called alco-holy. Because when you drink enough – you feel holy. It’s about forgiveness. Because when you are drunk, you forgive everything to yourself, and everyone.
Question: It’s the big forgetness, and the lots of memory which is not the same.
Karl Renz: Yeah, I wish you did, forgetfulness. Forget-fullness. Or I would say – don’t forget fullness.
The two faces of Shiva
Karl Renz: But this is a joy. This is a joy that you cannot choose. The choicelessness of being. Things happen in spite of your liking it or not. And you have to enjoy yourself in spite liking it or not. This is a joy that everything already happened. And there is no way of changing anything. So the nature of peace and joy is not different. That why in India they call it Sat Chit Ananda. Three names for the Self. The Self, Chit means knowledge, and Ananda is happiness or joy. But they are not belonged together. So the Self doesn’t need to know itself to be happy.
Question: So it’s not an emotion?
Karl Renz: No.
Question: This is my question.
Karl Renz: Yeah, emotions come. It’s motion. It’s movement. It’s something. It’s an imaginary body chemical reaction, you can say. But that’s not joy. Joy is in spite of events. In spite of the chemical reaction in your brain. In spite of your kid does what you want or something. Or the world is as you like it. The joy, which needs an environment, is a depending one. And it’s not worth talking about.
Whoever claims to be a jnany, watch out
Question: But in case of a sage, in case of a jnany, he also lives in the world. So at times he is in that state where the world exists or not – doesn’t really matter for him. But the moment he starts interacting the world, as you said, hell might be starting even for a sage.
Karl Renz: That’s why I say – there is no way out. Even a jnany has to interact. So hell doesn’t stop. But what can stop is like that tendency of avoidance can stop. That is called a jnany. Only the tendency stops and not by trying to stop it. It stops when it stops. And in case of a jnany it stops before the body dies. Because in the moment the body dies and all of that, for sure all the tendencies go. And in the case of a jnany or saint it stops before. That’s all. So they worn out. The tendencies worn out. And then you call it a jnany. Because then there is no tendency of avoidance, and that is you call peaceful.
Or even the tendency of the tendency to avoid stops. So even there can be a tendency of avoidance but there is no tendency to stop the tendency. That’s more the case.
Question: So avoidance of… trying to avoid the unpleasantness. So natural thing.
Me. My reality. My chair.
Karl Renz: That’s a definition of Reality – it cannot be sometimes and sometimes not. Is it? The same as this presence.
Question: The idea of a chair is something.
Karl Renz: It’s temporary.
Question: The idea of a chair?
Karl Renz: Yeah. If no one would have told you that there is a chair, you would not even know a chair. You would not call it a chair. It’s a hearsay. If you would not know the sun, you would not even know. If there would be no word for it, you would not know it, you would not even see it. It’s all conditioned. Who told you – this is a hand? If you would not know this is your body, you… If your mother would not have told you when you are three years old – “this is your body”, this would not be even your body. It’s hearsay. This “mine”, this “me”. It’s just a conditioning. And will be gone one day.
And who needs evidence anyway? Question. Me. My reality. My chair. I can feel it. My body. So the question is Who am I? And who needs evidence that he exists? Who doubts, who needs always confirmation that he exists? Me. Me. Me.