Karl Renz: I don’t mind to talk. By that you are just can be quiet – it’s fine. So everyone has this experience by sitting down and wanting to be quiet, and everything is quiet. May not work so well. So but talking you to death works most often. For many, not for everyone.
Question: So if I have a question and ask. You could say what is a nonsense.
Karl Renz: No, I could not. I never know what I answer. It’s always like a unique thing. There is no standard.
Question: In a way you are a shit-cleaner, right?
Karl Renz: No, I am just here to open your back door.
Question: Yoga again.
Karl Renz: Yeah, this is yoga, this is pure yoga. Because keep your asshole open. But not only there, here too. In and out. You have two ears, that there is one ear here and one out, one in, one out. Don’t be a collector of shit.
Otherwise you present, that is like a meeting. Everyone presenting the collecting of the shit from yesterday, what happened. Shit happened, yesterday. Shit, shit, shit, shit. And then comparing your shit with their shit. My shit is better then your shit. A competition of shit. Shit competition. I have golden shit. You still have silver shit. My shit is pure. I have purified shit. You have dirty shit.
Yeah, listen to when people talking of their whatever. “My childhood was a very shitty childhood. No, my parents loved me. Shit. I cannot complain. Shit.” Yeah, it’s fun to have a shit factory. And when this shit factory goes, you don’t hang on to it. Because who wants to hang on on shit. Shit came, shit goes. It calls food body. Just digesting, digesting. And then what comes out of it? Worms are happy producing another shit. Even big models and body-builders, all – shit, shit, shit. Fantastic.
Question: So we can see there is no quality in what we are.
Karl Renz: No, there is only quality. There is no quantity. There is a dream of quantity. But in Reality is only quality. Only God or Self exists. So God is what is. And that Reality is realizing itself in all possibilities. So even the form is quality. But not one form is better than the other. So there is only Self showing itself in infinite forms. An infinite absolute presences. But there is no difference in quality. So it shows itself in differences but it doesn’t make a difference. So yes and no.
Karl Renz: It’s dumb to wake up. It’s very dumb. Stupid. But it’s an accident. It’s not by intention. So you are stupid not by intention. You are just stupid to wake up. And if the I aware, awakeness, then comes I – I am, dumber. Dumb, dumber. And then having the body is the dumbest. So identified with awareness is dumb. Identified with spirit is dumber. And identifying yourself with a body is the dumbest. So it starts dumb, gets dumber, and the dumbest is now – being a person. So what to do.
So God must be very dumb, dumber and dumbest. Because now God sitting there, identified with being Spanish and a body. It’s double dummy dumb. Having a nationality. God with a nationality. That’s the dumbest ever. Being German, imagine. Wow. But we can take it. We really try to be Germans, not too mind. I think we all get old enough, that we get used to it. When we get really used to it, we die. Then it’s done.
Question: There is also no karma.
Karl Renz: There is karma but not yours. It’s a cosmic karma. It’s like the karma of consciousness. This moment and the next moment is the karma of consciousness. The action and the reaction in nature are not two. Consciousness is reacting to itself as a karmic consciousness. Infinitely incarnating, incarnating, incarnating in the next moment.
And the last moment disappears in the potential, and the next moment gets created out of the same whatever – call it consciousness, call it Life. So the karmic Life. Life has the absolute karma. It cannot get out of it. It has to realize itself. Life has to live itself. Life living – that is karma of Life. It cannot stop it. But there is no personal karma. Never was. So there is karma but it’s not yours. So why do you care?
Question: So no one can choose?
Karl Renz: There was never any chooser. There is no guilt in anything. You cannot blame anyone for anything. Because no one ever did anything. No Hitler, no anyone, no Charles Manson, no you.
Question: So dying doesn’t change anything?
Karl Renz: No. Yeah, there will be a change of bodies.
Question: Dying before that…
Karl Renz: No, it’s all esoteric, it’s all the imaginary advantage. That you already experiencing dying. And then when dying really happens, that you can let go. But what do let go? What is there to let go?
Karl Renz: This presence has to stay in presence. And that what is absence has to be absence. But what you are is neither presence or absence. Isn’t it fantastic? You are in the presence and you are in the absence. You are absolutely independent of whatever you can imagine. But still you have to experience the presence, you cannot stop it. Uncontrollable. So what to do?
Question: Why this body can commit the suicide?
Karl Renz: No, I think for me the only suicide is the moment you identified with the body, then you committed suicide. You kill your infinite self by believing in your temporary limited body. That is self-suicide. People who kill the body – that’s not suicide. That is just getting rid of something. But the real suicide is that you believe that you are born. That is suicide. Believing that you are something what is born. That is suicide. By that you kill yourself. If that is your reality – to be born, having a body, having a life which has beginning and end. That’s the real suicide. By that you kill yourself. And any moment that is your reality, you are dead. You die into some cemetery of a tombstone who is already dead. So whatever life who believes to be born is dead.
Karl Renz: Awakened ones and non-awakened ones, where do they exist? Only in a dream of phantoms, in this shadow world of dream. There are awakened shadows and non-awakened shadows. And awakened ones need non-awakened ones, because otherwise they would not be special. So it’s like an agreement. You play the non-awakened one and I play the awakened one, and then we have a party, because without parts… I play my part, you play your part, so just for fun.
Just for fun I am unenlightened today. So you pretend not to know yourself, not to know what you are just for fun. But after a while the fun becomes serious, then you are in trouble. It’s like Shiva plays with the puppets just for fun, with this so called creation. He plays with this creation, but after a while he forgets that he was not even the creator. Then he forgets himself, to be That what is never part of creation or creator or anything.
Karl Renz: Could the chair decide if I sit today on it or not? How can object in time decide anything? Did that answer answer your question? It’s exactly what Krishna told Arjuna, what I just said. Krishna told Arjuna that even he – the architect of all the universes, all what can be created, he cannot change his own creation.
Because the war already happened from the beginning. You cannot avoid what is already created, what is already done. He had to go and fight, because it already happened. You cannot avoid anything of your so called destiny or fate, because everything what can happen already happened. The movie is shot. It’s already finished. You cannot change anything. That is Krishna telling Arjuna that even he – the almighty, the almighty creator, the architect of everything, cannot change his own creation. Not one dot, he cannot change one little action. So Arjuna had to go and kill, because they are all dead anyway already.
Karl Renz: This direction is “I am who?” is always out. Then comes whatever master or someone who tells you: ask yourself “Who am I?”. And then comes this no answer, that absolute no answer of that question. So it’s always direction then within is like the direction to that mystery. And maybe by that question all your concepts of your relative existence dry out or gets annihilated.
Because that question of “Who am I?” – is like an infinite now, becomes your nature. That direction is within to that mystery, to that what is a source of whatever can be known and not known. And by that infinite no answer you get lost in that. You cannot grab anything, never understanding or deep insight as an answer is there. There is no answer. And in this no answer something is totally relaxing in a way.
