Question: When I go to Virupaksha cave, it gets really violent. I don’t know something very hard happens. So I was wondering there is tenderness in that somehow?
Karl Renz: In the cave?
Question: This I don’t know very intense experience. It’s not blissful.
Karl Renz: Because the cave is a radio station. You didn’t know? There is a holy man, like a sage’s samadhi there under the big stone. And he is talking all the time. You have really to receive all his whatever information. He is an infinite source of information and wisdom. And you get totally messy. If you really have an open radio inside, you get all the information. It’s him. And he doesn’t mind. He is just being without everything. Whatever you want to know, he tells you. You were overloaded then. No, it’s not a place of silence there. And never was. But that I like about it. He is talking out of silence. But silence doesn’t have to be quiet. It’s a biggest pointer. You can talk talk talk and there is still silence uninterrupted. But you take it as a disturbance.
Question: Yes and no.