Karl Renz: This presence has to stay in presence. And that what is absence has to be absence. But what you are is neither presence or absence. Isn’t it fantastic? You are in the presence and you are in the absence. You are absolutely independent of whatever you can imagine. But still you have to experience the presence, you cannot stop it. Uncontrollable. So what to do?
Question: Why this body can commit the suicide?
Karl Renz: No, I think for me the only suicide is the moment you identified with the body, then you committed suicide. You kill your infinite self by believing in your temporary limited body. That is self-suicide. People who kill the body – that’s not suicide. That is just getting rid of something. But the real suicide is that you believe that you are born. That is suicide. Believing that you are something what is born. That is suicide. By that you kill yourself. If that is your reality – to be born, having a body, having a life which has beginning and end. That’s the real suicide. By that you kill yourself. And any moment that is your reality, you are dead. You die into some cemetery of a tombstone who is already dead. So whatever life who believes to be born is dead.