Question: So no one can choose?
Karl Renz: There was never any chooser. There is no guilt in anything. You cannot blame anyone for anything. Because no one ever did anything. No Hitler, no anyone, no Charles Manson, no you.
Question: So dying doesn’t change anything?
Karl Renz: No. Yeah, there will be a change of bodies.
Question: Dying before that…
Karl Renz: No, it’s all esoteric, it’s all the imaginary advantage. That you already experiencing dying. And then when dying really happens, that you can let go. But what do let go? What is there to let go?
You’re just falling asleep. It’s a same as falling asleep. You just shift to the absence. The perception just turns to the absence. That’s all. And then it cannot go back to the body because the body has no energy. Life energy is not there anymore. So it cannot go back to this body. But the next will happen as a next, as whatever. It’s always the next. And then, and then, and then. There is no end to this then. You just be that absence of this cosmic consciousness, the creation, emptiness, and then comes the next event.
Question: But this is also a concept.
Karl Renz: No, it’s my experience.