Karl Renz: And no one can claim that he is That. And no one can pull you out again, anything. Because you cannot lose it. Cannot gain it. But everything else you can lose again. And it’s fragile. So all the realizations, all enlightenment, all awakening, and all experiences are very fragile. Wherever you land, you have to depart again. It will be checked. And God will cut you down by all your experiences, by all your insight, by all your intellectual acrobatic ideas of whatever you can nicely pronounce with all the beauty and all of that. Bum. It will puhhh as nothing.
Question: This point of satisfaction.
Karl Renz: It’s not the point of satisfaction.
Question: Or that state.
Karl Renz: That’s not a state. It is not a state. It is fact. There is no one who can be in That what has no state. Everyone needs a state to be in it. But That which is not a state you cannot be in it. There is no one who can be there. Every other state you can land in. But in That no one can land. And then no one can land there, no one can depart. There is no departure possible from what you are.
;o-))