Karl Renz: Finally there is no Guru and no disciple anyway. But erasing it… They don’t have to go. You erase them by being what you are. But not erasing them by any technique. No Guru has to go, because in Reality there was never any Guru and no disciple relationship anyway. There is no relationship from one to the other.
In a dream there are many relationships and whatever thing. But in Reality there is no relationship to anything. You are totally alone. There is aloneness, there is no second. So if you erase that and then you can maybe… That’s too much effort, for me.
Bardo. But in a bardo you erase your Guru? I never heard about that. Maybe you go to the bar and drink a lot, and then the Guru is gone. You drink a Guru away. You get drunk and then there is no Guru and no disciple.